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Post by bizzi on Jun 13, 2007 22:13:41 GMT -5
Humm... at times Funnel, I just want to slap you.... But only cause your right and it frustrates me...
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Post by Funnel on Jun 13, 2007 22:16:36 GMT -5
I bet. But that is what friends are for.
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Post by bizzi on Jun 13, 2007 22:18:03 GMT -5
Yeah or in your case when you walk into the wrong hacker den trying to recruit and need me to back you up lol.
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Post by Jack on Jun 14, 2007 8:36:35 GMT -5
If you are not connected up with life after foster care, you should consider doing that. You all do need to fight for your kids rights and make sure while they arre not with you, that they are being cared for!!!!!
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Post by bizzi on Jun 14, 2007 9:09:14 GMT -5
Once the system has you you have no rights and you can't be sure of anything except your kids are going to go threw hell. Parents don't have the ability to make sure their child is safe while in care.
In many instances if you notice something is wrong and you say something your access to your child is cut. And you get ganked like I did.
The only solution is to shut it down and design a new system that helps families... not feeds off them like cockroaches.
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Post by GUEST on Jun 14, 2007 9:57:38 GMT -5
I would just like to point out that a little objectivity is required here. Seriously. I am NOT defending the CAS or the drugging of children by any means, so please do not take this post that way! I do NOT agree with how many children in CAS care are on medications for various issues! I also completely AGREE with Biz that someone from the board of Directors probably has little to no knowledge regarding the various medications used, their side effects ect... I also think its insane that workers are required to sign for medications for their kids, when more often then not, workers have NO idea what it is they are signing for!
With these things said however... I would like to point out that the gentleman who wrote about his own current state of being after having been in care is not proof positive of the effects of the medications he may have been on while in care of CAS. We do not know WHY he was placed in care (what were the abuses that the CAS perceived which led to his apprehension?). We do not know which medications he was on, or why he was prescribed them! We do not know his medical or physical history (could his current state be related say to a car accident for example?). We do not know his family medical history ect....
All we know is that he has posted a note which blames the CAS for his current state of being. Now... I'm not saying the gentleman is lying. I'm not saying he is WRONG. I'm merely pointing out that there may be extenuating circumstances that may NOT be related to the CAS, or the medications that we (and even HE) may be unaware of.
Soooo... what now? I personally think CAS workers should NOT have to sign for kids' medications. They simply know nothing about them. THey are not trained enough to know the uses, the side effects, long term effects...ect.... More often than not... workers just sign the forms blindly...because a doctor says a child needs something. I don't agree with that either. I think the doctors need to be answering to someone about why medications are being prescribed as well! It can't be that EVERY kid, or close to EVERY kid in care requires medication! And if they do... one has to wonder... why??
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Post by bizzi on Jun 14, 2007 13:16:16 GMT -5
I talked on the phone for along amout of time to both his sister and himself. Like myself and my son they were taken because their parents were to poor. He has had no car crashes.... he was only ever in a hospital for dugs mixing and having a bad effect. They tried to force drug his sister till she punched a worker in the face and jumped out of a moving car.. She lived with her boyfreind and his parents till she was 18 then went lookign for her brother. Once they found each other threw a family friend they were notified one parent died of cancer.. (Which was why they were poor.) and the other after being alone and losing everything killed them self. What they lived threw at the hands of foster care was just pure insanity. There is alot more but.. that is for them to tell not me. I agree their needs to be a foster care system... But what foster care now is not good. It's a family killer. And helps nobody but those collecting a paycheck and their kids who get to goto college while we die from drug overdoses while hiding on the streets trying to fill the drug void foster care left them with. Their is nuthing good about the system.... nuthing. What makes it even worse is they refuse to learn from their mistakes.. and would rather throw us in jail for speaking out then to just simply makes some positive life saving changes. I know your not defending it. I know what your saying. What was done to him was from being force feed drugs for conditions he never had... Instead was just used to make him compliant. Nothing more.... Drugs and children do not mix... there is no excuse for feeding children mind altering drugs. Nothing can justify feeding children drugs. (And no I am not talking to you guest..lol just in general.) Children should not be forced drugs by parents to lazy and stupid to raise their own children.. it's disgusting and they should be slapped... In fact if you think feeding your children drugs is good.. send me a email and come meet me somewhwere so I can slap you myself.
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Post by bizzi on Jun 14, 2007 13:28:47 GMT -5
The gov developed LSD and many other drugs that are bad for us.. how can any new drugs they make be any better?
Because you sheep believe them. LSD anti depressants... downers uppers they are all mind altering drugs.. just with different fancy names.. Drugs are drugs...
People who feed their children mind altering drugs are abusing their children. It's that simple......
And if drugs are absolutely needed then it should be a very very last resort.
Before the government made all the cuts to the foster care systems etc.. their was 2 types of foster care. One expensive but was one on one with the children and produced good results and did not involve drugs... They shut it down because it was costing them too much.
Because it was costing to much!!!!!!
So everything went foster homes.. So instead of having trained staff who get breaks and alot of support. now it's two parent with no training and get no breaks. All so the government could save a buck all kids get thrown into foster homes some having as many as 10 children and many of them drugged to remain complaint and easier to manage.... and as you can see today they have killed a hell of alot of children in order to save a buck.
"We care about kids" No you bureaucrats are so full of shit!
You care about your money and public image... Kids come last. Actions speak louder then words. And their actions are placing children's lives in danger.
There is nuthing they can say to change that.. the dead children should speak for themselves. I guess when your a rich greedy scum bag... the rules don't apply to you.
We believe in equality so... if the rules don't apply to them they don't apply to us.
An eye for an eye. It's written in the bible that the law is built on.
.................... I just wish I could tie these people up lock them in cages and force feed them LSD some anti depressant and some anti psychotics see how they feel......... and all the while I will just smile and tell them I care about you! This is for your own good like they told us.
ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
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