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Post by watchdog on Jan 8, 2008 5:40:26 GMT -5
The way I see it is, the CAS and other Authorities use the Police to help them continue to apprehend children. In some cases the police have been smart and followed the rules, but in some they have been led down the wrong path. Whether they do it to help children, CAS or themselves is another question.
I know most police officers will side on the protection of kid's from harm. I do believe CAS takes complete advantage of this regularly. I think it's the same as the justice system. God forbid they allow a child to get hurt. The problem is they believe the CAS is always right. I believe that can explain everything wrong with the system.
Many questions are raised about the Police , Law enforcement, Security and Private investigation in most forums daily. Mostly relating to the CAS and Foster Care areas. I thought this area would help answer some questions and bring to light some issues members and guests have and are dealing with. I'm not starting this area just to bash the authorities, but sometimes equal opportunity posts both good and bad are needed.
Members and guests are welcome to post any questions or comments about Law enforcement and or general policing etc issues here.
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Post by Dean Robinson on Jan 10, 2008 14:55:33 GMT -5
The way I see it is, the CAS and other Authorities use the Police to help them continue to apprehend children. In some cases the police have been smart and followed the rules, but in some they have been led down the wrong path. Whether they do it to help children or the CAS is another question. Many questions are raised about the Police , Law enforcement, Security and Private investigation in most forums daily. Mostly relating to the CAS and Foster Care areas. I thought this area would help answer some questions and bring to light some issues members and guests have and are dealing with. Members and guests are welcome to post any questions or comments about Law enforcement and or general policing etc issues here. excellent work here watchdog keep it up
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Post by Mary C on Jan 11, 2008 14:05:20 GMT -5
Mental health act and CAS, their favorite card. The police cannot take you unless you are a threat to yourself or someone. They tried this with me and the police officer tried to enforce it until I qouted the act to him. He backed right off then and told sw I can't touch her. Up until I qouted the act I was told no less than 10 times I was getting in the cruiser and going for a ride. Saying no wasn't sufficent until I qouted the law. Never be afraid to assert your right. Its your familys safty at risk. Also being put in front of a judge after being released from a mental institution is big ammo for CAS.
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Post by watchdog on Jan 12, 2008 8:33:21 GMT -5
What makes me think is that police officer already knew the law, so why would he play that game. I believe CAS was pushing him into what he was doing. At least he made the right move in the end. Your lucky you knew the law. I feel for those that don't.
The fact that he told you ten times you were going for a ride, tells me something was wrong. The police generally don't ask ten times unless they wanted you to volunteer to get in. That cop knew he wasn't in the right, hence the 10 times. I know most police officers will side on the protection of kid's from harm. I do believe CAS takes complete advantage of this regularly. I think it's the same as the justice system. God forbid they allow a child to get hurt. The problem is they believe the CAS is always right. I believe that can explain everything wrong with the system.
Question: Was this police officer on his own with just the CAS worker?.
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Post by td on Jan 12, 2008 13:05:42 GMT -5
mary c, I would like to see this law you made referance too, and yes please do answer the others question as well.
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Post by Mary C on Jan 12, 2008 18:04:29 GMT -5
It was 2 officers the removing sw and another young worker. The only reason I knew that law was where I had previosly lived many of my neighbors mentally ill and used to make reference to that law when they were naughty. I believe the sw fed the cop a line of bull and he was acting upon her instructions but when it could of come back and bit him in the ass with me writing a complaint he backed off. I'm sure he read me well enough to know I wasn't going down easy and I was not showing any signs of being unstable. Also I pointed out that he requested many times get in the car and would have forcibly put me there had I not said what I did. I asked him do you like violating peoples rights, make you feel like a man, gun not enough. The other cop was guarding the door in case I tried to make a run for it. The youngest worker just looked like someone had slapped her (hard). I believe when they have nothing they use that tactic bc if you had abused your child there would be marks, if your home had no food they would take pictures but with nothing they have to work to make something that will present well in front of a judge. Just my opinion.
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Post by Mary C on Jan 12, 2008 18:16:24 GMT -5
I think they woulld manipulate the police to suit the occasion wether it was citing domestic abuse to get 1 partner out the door (divide and conquer) and having an innocent person charged, citing sexual abuse bc law enforcement just love diddlers (sarcasm). They play dirty as soon as you realize the game field is not even, they are not fair, they don't have the best interest of children at heart you will do better in your case. Td that law may have been changed since then, not sure it was over 5 years ago. Just google it.
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Post by td on Jan 13, 2008 0:04:07 GMT -5
to mary c, well could you post a link to it, and i can look at it, if it has been appealled and or veried following years, it will state such,in following issues thank-you.
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Post by Mc on Feb 22, 2008 10:36:03 GMT -5
Mountie charged with stealing gasoline also accused of shoplifting
By CATHY VON KINTZEL Truro Bureau Fri. Feb 22 - 5:44 AM
NEW GLASGOW — A Pictou County Mountie charged with stealing gasoline last year has been accused of shoplifting from a New Glasgow department store.
New Glasgow police charged RCMP Const. Blair Francis Gorman, 42, with theft under $5,000 this week after investigating a weekend complaint from the town’s Wal-Mart store.
The suspended officer will be arraigned in New Glasgow provincial court March 31.
Const. Gorman was also charged last year with stealing gasoline from the federal government, defrauding the federal government through unauthorized use of a special credit card and breach of trust by a peace officer between April 20 and July 14.
He was stationed in the Pictou County office of the Pictou County District RCMP at the time of the alleged offences.
Const. Gorman chose trial by Nova Scotia Supreme Court judge alone and will have a preliminary hearing in New Glasgow provincial court April 16.
Sgt. Mark Gallagher, provincial RCMP spokesman, said Thursday that Const. Gorman was suspended in July 2007 after the investigation into the first series of alleged offences.
"This individual is now suspended with pay and is not working in any capacity for the RCMP," he said, adding another internal code of conduct investigation will be held regarding the latest charge.
( cvonkintzel@herald.ca)
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