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Post by td on May 19, 2007 13:20:23 GMT -5
im aware that evidence tampering,destruction,cover up are criminal code of canada offences,obstruction of justice! but how is it speacifically worded for the parties also being culpable for the crimes that,that evidence (that was formentioned) is evidence to??, plain "accesorie after the fact?"
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Post by Whistleblower on May 19, 2007 15:03:55 GMT -5
I do believe you. I have seen them using so many white outs, black permanent markers, and bring on the Shredder!! I have never seen so many of them doing that in my time, just that Agency doing so much work up on so many paper work, I have never seen so much corrupt. I remember one time, signing the release consent forms, there were carbon copies beneath the paper and I asked them why you have two, three copies below the paper where it can transfer your signature. They said "Oh, that is the Ministry rules". I THINK they use carbon copies to steal my signature so they can tranfer my signature on virtually on any paper, even new release consent forms. But I have no proof of this. It is just my gut feeling. Why the need of using carbon copies for? or even sign three, four release consent forms for? Just in case if this one is used up? Possibly they use it to use one for the Office, and one for the Ministry, and one for the Third party providers where you get services or treatment from. That could be. Why just they explain that? Why say "oh it is just Ministry rules?" and she just zips up? She did not tell me why there are so many copies nor explain why. I have seen them cover up with the cover page on top of the documents to prevent from me seeing it. Then she said she will release all the case files to me in a month, but she said everything will be whited out, blacked out with permanent markers and whatever. I bet there will be pages missing even. Pay attention to the page numbers. You will notice page 2 will be gone.
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Post by td on May 19, 2007 17:07:05 GMT -5
to : whistle blower, oh, you went to the we site and read my sons psych report, cool! and signatures,forgery, ah, you been paying attention to posts!,ha! but what is the truth is a diferent fact, speaking of "it"! they sent me a second email today via yahoo, and they claim how easy it was to "these degenerates were easier to mess with than i anticipated and you`ll get nothing from them i garanty it" so i called them on, two coraberate their claims,yet have not heard back from them!oh well, had two browser hijackings though! but id love for you to hear 3 audios it would make you freaked! obstruction,witness tampering,entrapment,judges covering up! then theres is the paper work as you said shreader! as ia that,BITCH judges? (trying to do 4 things at once here so it my not be straight forward or percise!)
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Post by Whistleblower on May 19, 2007 23:00:15 GMT -5
I feel it would be safe not to say too much through emails. That's why I use Ligiator to do some formal correspondence through emails to talk to the Worker for me. It worked. I got everything in writing this time and the response is more flowing than before. It used to be blocked, and getting no where. Be careful of what you say to the Worker that it can be used against you.
Have everything in writing using documents can be used for Courts. What did your Lawyer say about admitting these tapes into Court? Would they be admissable in courts? Just curious.
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Post by advocate on May 20, 2007 2:32:48 GMT -5
Whistleblower, I hope you didn't sign anything when it comes to your children without reading it completly first?!Or have your lawyer look at it first. Carbon copies............? is that really what you mean? I think that's a little old school isn't it. Do you mean self copying sheets? Why wouldn't they make you sign all sheets seperately? Never, Never sign blank CAS forms ever!!!!!
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Post by MConn on May 20, 2007 10:15:30 GMT -5
We had a lawyer that we thought we could trust but he did not put any evidence that we had to the Judge we where screwed over right from the start and we did not even know that the courts and the CAS had everything rigged up so we would fail we have pictures, 17 witnesses, my time sheets, bank information everything that shows were I was and what I was doing that night of Christmas Eve 2004 and nobody even looked at. Now since we have been putting everything together to find out what really happened the worker sexually assaulted our oldest daughter and we got a police report on what he did to her then we went and got everything from all the councilors and Doctors that our youngest daughter had seen everything points to the worker that took our daughters that he did something to our youngest and to cover it up took her into care to keep her quiet and our lawyer helped them to cover up what this worker done to our daughters
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Post by dta on May 20, 2007 11:07:02 GMT -5
Don`t even trust your lawyer read it all before you sign!
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Post by Whistleblower on May 20, 2007 13:16:45 GMT -5
At one time, there was pink, yellow colour coded paperwork at the bottom where the original paper would transfer your signature onto the 2nd, and 3rd pages. I was very suspicious and asked the Worker about that. When I was more overly cautious of what they are doing, they changed it to "self copying" which means they have 3 papers that looks the same and you sign all 3 papers. She wrote down the agency name, and wrote down the person/provider's name such as doctor's name, or school name. and she made me sign three papers. When I asked her why sign this and sign that...why so many papers? She stated that is Ministry Rules.
Oh yea....I got a blank form sheet too. I didn't like that and I made her put down the name of the Doctor on that paper and she wasn't too happy about that. I told her I have the right to put down the person or provider's name where they are going to release information to CAS. Blank form sheet where you sign can be risky because they can put down a different provider when you are gone. It could very well be the counselling sessions or other things. Always, always make sure you put down the agency name and doctor's name on it, or school name on it. When she gave me another blank form sheet and made me sign a blank one, I asked her why? I told her to put it down all the information before I signed it. I signed a blank form sheet once when I was naive at the beginning but I caught on quickly to what they were up to.
As to date, I am not signing any more consent forms unless they will put me under duress, under force to do so. You can put "under duress, under force and sign your name on top of the words or over lapping the "under duress" at the signature line. So they know that you signed the forms under duress.
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