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Post by Dean Robinson on May 9, 2007 9:59:33 GMT -5
I agree Reality. if they say 1hour you take it, and dont get amgry with them thats what the CAS is exspecting from you. I cant stress this enough the judge is leaning in your favor to release your son to your care, so take all the visitation time you can get. if your keeping cool you can ask the judge to order the time to be [laced in the order, your time spent with your child is to make a smooth transaction back to the family home, if you dont agree with the visitation time line dont fight with them about it call your Lawyer and let him deal with it this way they cant say you are being unreasonable
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Post by Mary not logged in on May 9, 2007 10:07:45 GMT -5
the notes from the judge are in the court file ..ask to have a copy of it..then present it to CAS .. Take any and all visits and do not get upset with them as they will use the mental health card then more time etc..so get the copy of the judge's notes and present them in a letter to the worker and the supervisor and see where that goes , if no where get a hearing in front of the judge again and talk to him again
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Post by smartlady23 on May 9, 2007 15:01:50 GMT -5
yes thanks all but its too late and my visits start back on track next week. I went to the court house today and got a copy of the endorsement but it doesnt really help because it doesnt say in it that the judge strongly recommended 3 visits for 7 hours a week. the only way would be probably to ahve it court ordered but when i am in court next is basically to see if i get him back thats all. but yes i have contacted my lawyer and left a message as its hard to get in contact with her. and i have called my worker and tried ammending things with her so we were on the right track.
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Post by Mary not logged in on May 9, 2007 15:40:03 GMT -5
no it's not the copy of the endorsement you want it is the actual notes from the judge. They should be in there too, that is where he should have written , what he advised that day..it is basically a note to himself or other judges that look at the file after that day..
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Post by smartlady23 on May 9, 2007 15:59:01 GMT -5
ok i will ask for it tomorrow thanks alot
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Post by Lorna on May 9, 2007 17:01:33 GMT -5
Good to see you back Mary.....Great advice
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Post by smartlady23 on May 9, 2007 22:21:29 GMT -5
i heard that his notes are the endorsement and u have to ask for the transcripts but they cost money and i know i sound like im not wanting to fight this but my financial situation isnt too good right now and i dont have money to pay for it so someone told me to ask the judge to order it so that they are given to me at no cost, so i will try that
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Post by smartlady23 on May 22, 2007 21:51:37 GMT -5
so i got a new letter in the mail today from cas lawyer requesting explanations for things. he had said i always complain about everything under the sun and that im always turning down increased acess and not being cooperative with the aide, but its all lies i have come to realize how cas really are and its sickening the games they pull. they say me and my hubby continue to put our own needs ahead of our son thats in care, which isnt true either. my kids are perfectly healthy and they come first always before we do but they obviously cant except that. and when my son was in the hosp one time they want an explanation to why we only attended on day out of a week for 3 hours so i wrote up a big thing today and emailed it to my lawyer so i hope they are satisified. i am just really overwhelmed not with my son's care but with the demands of cas they put on us.
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Post by lurking supporter on May 23, 2007 11:52:08 GMT -5
May I suggest a few things:
1. Get ALL your child's medical records from all the hospitals, doctors, pediatricians and GI specialists (gastrointestinal) yourself.
2. Covertly record every meeting with CAS, your lawyer, the child's lawyer and any court proceedings
3. Attempt (and this I use not so lightly, it's difficult to get) to get all your CAS\court files
4. After every CAS\Lawyer meeting send a registered letter outlining the outcome and everything that was said in the meetings. If the person you address the letter to doesn't respond to the letter back to you this means in the eyes of the law that silence is acceptance of your run down of the meeting (in other words your word has been excepted as what was said, what was done and the outcome). This DOES work! I've done it. It's also a paper trail of what your side of the story is comparative to theirs and goes into the CAS files as well.
Write out an affidavit with all this information as "exhibits" (exhibit a, b, c...ect) to the court and file it. This gets logged into the courts as "evidence" from your side of the coin. It may not shorten your situation or it may but it certainly will make it slightly easier for you to get proper representation in this sucky court system.
Good Luck!
LS
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Post by Lurking Supporter on May 23, 2007 11:58:28 GMT -5
Here's a form letter for point #4 in my advice:
Use it as you please!
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Date
TO: Social worker Their address
RE: Our discussion on “date”
Dear Social worker:
As discussed in our phone conversation on “Date”. I wanted to clarify what we had agreed upon and make certain there were no misunderstandings that I called to touch base with you to let you know about Blah blah blah...
Thank you in advance for your time and assistance. If you have any questions or need clarification, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Your Name
Your Address
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recinding a signature
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Post by recinding a signature on May 23, 2007 12:01:30 GMT -5
CAUSE NUMBER:__________________
NOTICE OF RESCIND OF SIGNATURE
NOW COMES ______________________ natural/common, ___________________ in above case matter hereby files and states for the record that name's signature on the Consent To Disclosure Of A Person's Records Agreement which was obtained from name by the CAS of this your region or city , its Associates, the Juvenile Court of region Region, its Associates all acting Under The Color of Law * was fraudulently obtained by all above parties who are investigating the family and who Willfully and knowingly did not fully disclose to your name as to the ramifications and the full effect of the signing of that document.
By __________ signature now, your name hereby rescind on her\his signature on that document in question in which allows CAS of your Region to speak to family doctors, review relevant medical documentation or any medical information The lack of full disclosure and fraudulent representations vitiate that document in question with your name's signature in which that agreement was reach is hereby declared NULL and VOID as of this date of _________/__________/2007.
Signature of Rescinding Party: _________________________________ Date: _____/______/ 2007
Color of Law -Misuse of power, possessed by virtue of state law and made possible only because wrongdoer is clothed with the authority of the state, when action is taken under "Color of State Law."
PROVINCE OF } ONTARIO
REGION OF } ?
On _________________ before me,________________________________ ,personally
appeared _______________________________ , personally known to me (or proved to me on the basis of satisfactory evidence) to be the persons whose names is in their authorized capacities, and that by their signatures on this instrument the persons, or the entity upon behalf of which the persons acted, executed this instrument. I WITNESS my hand and official seal
Signature _________________________________. (NOTARY)
Signer: ______ Known _______ Unknown TYPES OF ID Produced ___________________________
(Seal)
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Post by smartlady23 on May 23, 2007 12:48:42 GMT -5
sry guys all this is a convusion to me, i have no clue about the law and court system and about trying to get through to ppl on my own. im just so trained and it has been a long court process, over a yr now. i just wish that every corner i turned the cas wasnt coming at me with something else, its as if i cant get by them with anything. i need to fight for my son back and if the judge reads there stuff and believes it im done for something i didnt even do.
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Post by smartlady23 on Jun 15, 2007 20:32:47 GMT -5
Hello again, i know it's been awhile. Everything is heading on the right path i hope. My visits are done in a stressful manner now. I have a PSW(parent support worker) who supervises my visits plus another work that comes in duroing all my visits to observe for about 1 1/2 hr.'s to make sure im doing everything i need to. The PSW i use to have has done my visits for most of the time my son has been in care, but one of the psw's that come every tues. visit said some things about her and complained about some things she wasnt doing, so she was dissmissed off my case completely. Now i have this other PSW who took over for her, she seems nice and is new to CAS. she write every little thng down she told me times, our interaction with our son etc cause she wants to show good for us she said and wants cas to see we are good with our child,whether we can believe what comes out of her mouth or not. She says things about CAS u wouldnt think a worker says, and she meets with all the workers before doing the visits so she has all the details before entering the ppl's homes. She had training about feeding tubes etc, and she wont do a visit with any family if she knows off the hop that they are gonna apprehend the child, she is there to help she says. She is really good i think, if i need help with something she is right there. So ya the visits can be stressful but there is only 2 other workers that take turns coming in to observe one on my tues. visits and one on my thurs. visits and the one on my thurs visits i like but the one for my tues. visits scares me and makes me feel so uncomfortable and questions everything i do. Like for instance i was venting and flushing my son's tube th one day and he vomitted but not because of how i done it just because he coughed and it came up. But she asked if there was an order to doing it and i said not really but im aware of how to do it and i have confirmed it with foster mom before, so after my visit that day i confirmed it again with foster mom cause she picks him up at my house afterwards and i am venting and flushing him the right way and even the PSW that does my visits stood there and witnessed it. Other then that everything seems to be going great with the visits, the time with my son is so valuable and i enjoy it so much. But if they think extending it to 7 hours twice a week is gonna make me give up they are wrong. I have made a few mistakes by forgetting some things during the visits and the worker knows about it and i imagine will be used on me, and i have got into some dissagreements with the worker and got mad but not to the point i have blown in there faces like before, im mellowing out alot since angermanagement, it's helping.
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Post by mary on Jun 15, 2007 20:47:06 GMT -5
I am so happy to hear this hun, keep up the great work , lots of deep breathing, you are a great mom please remember than at all times...things will be ok...talk to you soon.
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Post by smartlady23 on Jun 16, 2007 17:13:46 GMT -5
thanks mary encouragement keeps me pumping lol. i intend on being strong and fighting the whole way through this, it has to get good at some point.
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